www.theatlantic.com/unbound/...bushf.htm
"As We May Think," a 1945 essay by Vannevar Bush. Calls on scientists to create technology for the purpose of increasing knowledge rather than waging war. Introduces the "desktop" paradigm for information storage and retrieval that remains dominant today.
www.abelard.org/turpap/turpap.htm
"Computing Machinery and Intelligence" by Alan Turing (1950), essay on artifical intelligence that introduced the concept of the Turing Test.
sloan.stanford.edu/mousesit...kInd.html
"Augmenting Human Intellect: A Conceptual Framework" by Douglas Engelbart (1962). Engelbart is the inventor of the mouse, the window and the word processor, as well as the hyperlink (along with Ted Nelson). This piece provides the theoretical background to those inventions.
"As We May Think," a 1945 essay by Vannevar Bush. Calls on scientists to create technology for the purpose of increasing knowledge rather than waging war. Introduces the "desktop" paradigm for information storage and retrieval that remains dominant today.
www.abelard.org/turpap/turpap.htm
"Computing Machinery and Intelligence" by Alan Turing (1950), essay on artifical intelligence that introduced the concept of the Turing Test.
sloan.stanford.edu/mousesit...kInd.html
"Augmenting Human Intellect: A Conceptual Framework" by Douglas Engelbart (1962). Engelbart is the inventor of the mouse, the window and the word processor, as well as the hyperlink (along with Ted Nelson). This piece provides the theoretical background to those inventions.
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Re: Starting points for new media.
Fri, March 5, 2004 - 6:51 AMI am replying to the Turing Test. Machines Thinking. Machine can think, in my opinion. Their thinking is just limited to the thought processes they were programmed to perform. As the woman wanted to tell the truth, as when it was in her best interest, the interrogator probably would have guessed wrong. But the woman had the Intelligence to do so. If a computer was to do such an activity, it would have to be programmed to do so randomly. I would still consider that thought, but not coherent thought.
This makes me think of Isaac Asimov's
"I, Robot". It is a book tyhat contains a series of short stories where artificial intelligence has been created, but there are "Three rules of robotics."
1. A robot is to never harm another human being
2. A robot must always do what it is told by a human being, unless it interferes with rule number 1.
3. A robot must do anything to preserve it's own life, lest it interferes with the previous 2 rules.
One interesting short story that somewhat pertains to this situation is where a robot turns out to be psychic. In the end, the 'robopsychologist' puts him in a state of permanentpsychosis once they figured out that he was toying around with them.
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Re: Starting points for new media.
Thu, March 11, 2004 - 5:33 PMThe Turing Test is kind of outdated I guess. I remember reading someone who suggested that it has been met, not by creating intelligent machines, but by making people more like machines.
I don't know if machines can really think yet. I think that there has to be certain emergent properties that exist in thinking machines, but not other machines. For example, a coffee maker is programmed to do a certain task, but it would really be a stretch to say that it thinks. A computer can process information and to some extent adapt to its surroundings, but is it fundamentally different from the coffee maker? Isn't it basically the same kind of thing, only more complex, whereas living organisms are fundamentally different kinds of things?
Also you can look at the relative lack of progress in the past 2-3 decades in artificial intelligence compared to related fields like computer science and cognitive science. I think the field of artificial life is progressing faster than artificial intelligence and will have more interesting results in the future.
In artificial life the method tends to be to try to model evolution, rather than trying to piece together a higher intelligence from scratch. For example, Tierra ( www.his.atr.jp/~ray/tierra/ ), is a program that starts with a few algorithms running in a virtual machine. All they do is make copies of themselves in memory. Once in a while a mutation happens, which is just changing some of the bits randomly (or not so randomly). You just keep this program running and the idea is that the algorithms will evolve mechanisms to reproduce more efficiently (i.e. take over more of the memory space). For example, there might be a mutation which creates some sort of apparatus to view what's going on in the rest of the space and adapt to that, or to communicate with other algorithms (and these will presumably be selected for because they embody a more efficient algorithm). If you run it long enough perhaps there will be a "Cambrian explosion." -
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Re: Starting points for new media.
Wed, August 25, 2004 - 3:30 PMI get your point. But I sort of didn't want to take this type of tangient because it somewhat gets more complicated depending on the definition of 'think'. Taking it in the general meaning of the work, coffee makers think as well. The analogy of computers being more complex is true and can be applied to humans being more complex than fish. But wedon't say that fish do not think. I only use this counter-example because fish have brain cells and respond to and interact with their environment. Their is an environmental stimulus (input) and a response (output) whether physical or mental.
"A computer can process information and to some extent adapt to its surroundings, but is it fundamentally different from the coffee maker? Isn't it basically the same kind of thing, only more complex, whereas living organisms are fundamentally different kinds of things?"
Fundamentally, a computer is no different from a coffee-maker. Fundamentally, a human is no different from dog or cat when it comes down to simple "thought" based on the neurophysiology of our brains. Now I am not a physicialist nor a mentaist. I believe in dualism. Better yet, imagine a baby. We know they think, or we take it to be true. But their behavior is all but similar to that of computer producing behavioral output that we use to figure out what they are thinking or experiencing (input). It would be cynical to think that babies don't think even though practically all of their behaviors are instinctual. Even later, during up-bringing, molding their behavior is a form of programming. If we were able to produce an automatonon programmed to respond like a baby and placed it next to a real one, their would be no way to discern one from the other.
Upon reading your response, one thing ultimately stood out. AI. Now I am assuming you accept that if we had AI, then computers with AI do think. But why would computers without it not think? THE fundamental difference between humans (and I restrain from saying living organisms, becuase an argument can be made that all living organisms do not think) and computers is the idea of sentience. The idea of self-consciousness. People are quick to say that computers don't 'think' because, inherently, there is no thought processes that take place within a CPU that we normally can compare to the human experience.
If we are asked a question that we already know the answer to we reply as would a computer. But is our response one of thought, regurgitation, or both. If we didn't know the answer, we could venture a guess from present knowledge, but a computer would be dumb-founded because said answer would not exist in its library.
Does thin inability to extrapolate mean that it can't think? If so, do we need to then re-define the term think to include the idea of extrapolation? What if the computer replied I don't know as people (and I know I am) are afraid to admit sometimes? Then once again, we are at apass where there can be no discernable difference between a thinking thing and a non-thinking interactive thing.
The one step further is the ability to teach one's self. Is this the pinnacle of thought, or is it a requirement for it? Humans, once we reach a certain age, we can teach ourselves. The idea of AI is to build a machine that not only has programmming that is was designed with, but has the ability to "expand it's own program" to exceed that from which it had when it was first turned on. But without that ability, it is no different from a child who can't teach himself anything. And in this respect, of course anything learned is limited to book-type knowledge as a child can easily teach himself that fire is hot. But that is more of an instinctual reponse to a noxious stimulus from the environment. Or better, the child is 'hard-wired', bother literally and metaphorically, to act accordingly and remember what he learned.
Computers think, but they do no have the ability to teach themelves, nor ascertain a solution that they had not previously been given the answerto or prgramming as to find out that answer. Their lack of sentience does not preclude them from thinking, it's just a different typeof 'processing'.
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Re: Starting points for new media.
Tue, October 5, 2004 - 9:01 PMHeidegger's analysis of technology is interesting in this respect because he argues that technology is not a thing but rather a way of viewing or "enframing" the world. It's a method. And when we are using a method, we aren't thinking, we are simply running that particular algorithm (e.g. the "sociology algorithm", "math algorithm", and indeed the "philosophy algorithm") in our brains.
So I don't know if it the ability to teach oneself that defines thinking. For example look at a web crawler, the program that indexes web sites, doesn't it teach itself new things? Or there are video games where the AI can learn your techniques and adapt to them. But they're just following the program. -
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more from Heidegger
Thu, August 31, 2006 - 8:38 PMHeidegger also argued that man is the only being for whom his own being is a problem. This is more than self-reflection, which computers can do, there are programs that will show you how much free RAM you have etc.; Nvidia even has a motherboard chipset that will automatically fine tune the computer based on a series of tests to optimize performance, you can defragment your hard drive, etc. What Heidegger was referring to was that for humans their existence is a "problem" for which they feel the need to find a solution. I think this has yet to be found in other things.
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